Archive for February, 2015

Predestination, a follow-up

February 1, 2015

In 2009 I asked some questions about the idea of predestination. I thought this might be a controversial subject for many but apparently not. No one responded or even read my thoughts so I was left to figure it out on my own. Since I am sure no one read my previous post I am almost as confident no one will read this post either. In some respects that is appealing because you write down your thoughts and no one critiques you and you are not subjected to ridicule. We know there are several out there who just sit and wait for a point of view they can shread. Sure of themselves that they are right and everyone else is stupid and wrong. They love to hear themselves speak and marvel at their own brilliance. The idea, altruistic as it is, is to throw something out there and engage in honest debate so as to examine alternative points of view that you might grow from the debate. To either cast off your view of a particular subject and adopt a new one or solidify your position and defend it with honest and open debate.

As far as predestination goes I am now sure that there is biblical support for it. There is of course biblical support for free will to. It really depends on how you read the bible. The problem is that those on either side of the issue reads the text that supports their point of view and largely ignores that which does not. In some respects you can take it both ways and apply it equally. For instance, I am sure God has chosen many he intends and intended to save and they have his grace. But it is hard to set aside the words of Jesus when He said “any who call on my name and belive in me shall be saved”. In essence free will seems to have a place just as predestination does. The problem for a guy like me is I can’t escape God’s sovereignty. If I belive God is all knowing and all powerful then He already knows “before the foundation of the earth” who will be saved and who won’t. The question is did he chose it, predestinate it, or does He just know.

To know and to choose are not the same thing. There are many arguments that can be made for such a question. I’d like to hear your thoughts on this. Also is God present in all times, past, present, and future or is He a slave to time like we are. Before you slam this question there is an understanding that knowing the future and being present in the future are not the same.